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In the BHOAY thread I made (and locked) a while ago I wanted to avoid other inputs so there would be no bad provocative posts.
So far this thread is going well, so that's nice to see.
So far this thread is going well, so that's nice to see.
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FlutterPie: You started out not too great when you returned from being permabanned, with grammar and all, but now you've become quite fitted to this forum, with good grammar, and some more common sense. :)FlutterPie wrote:I'm open to criticism.
Keep in mind I'm still open for criticism. :)
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As I've been around for quite some time, I'd like to hear what some people(renhoek and camasomethin') have to say about me.
Hit me with the shit!
Hit me with the shit!
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Don't do me (EDIT: I should have known =P I hate reverse psycology) because I know how that will end up already.
And I'm sure nobody's opinion has changed since. If it did, well, then I don't think you're giving criticism anymore, now are you?Sašo wrote:I'll skip the line of people i don't remember that well and just get to someone I know a bit more.
And break my own rules at the same time by quoting a post to make a point.
Turret Opera
Do you know why you're banned that often from the IRC?Because of shit like this. Half assed attempts to be funny. And your portal related roleplay is horribly irritating and repetitive. It's not funny. It's NOT funny. Maybe SOMEONE finds you funny, but personally I don't.Turret Opera wrote:Enter.
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You know what's fun? Kicking or banning you. That's what's fun.
And I can't say your performance on the forum is that much different.
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Evaluation time class! Who's ready to fail?
And times up! Pencil's down, evaluation over. Leave your papers on my desk as you exit the class. Enjoy your weekend.
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I will work on my posts... but I really need to say that we have the best god darn teacher we could ever have.
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Which (of course) is Saso Maurice.ShankYourself.net wrote:I will work on my posts... but I really need to say that we have the best god darn teacher we could ever have.
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Nope, I was here since, mari0's release.(Though I only made that account 20 Jul 2012, 17:54)though I don't know if you're a beginner.
Most forum members are good and/or improving, so I won't repeat what Idiot said. Howered:
Turtle:
Ok, your posts are good. But:
- Your code is sometimes strange. I remember when you had a problem with your map-saving function, in that function, you copy-pasted like 5 times the same line(to write in the file), only making minor changes to that line . Also, your "toboolean" function posted to the love2d forums, which was flawed in many ways, wasn't worth to make a topic about it(Someone even though you were just an attention whore), had a require 'conf'(Useless) at the top, and a better alternative was given some posts later(function toboolean(x) return not not x end). (Maurice isn't perfect too. And everyone can make better code over the time. I abandonned My "VV" project when I realised that my code was shit. )
- You don't always know if something you make is good or bad.(That's why I scrapped so many projects, they weren't interesting anymore.) Turtle:Puzzles seem to have a boring gameplay(What's fun in this game? A good game idea is centered around a core concept, it's not a clusterfuck of features.) with bad and inconsistent graphics(Try to restrain to a color palette, the pixel grid and to get inspired by other games), wrapped with a "pretext" scenario(Compare "Turtle's babies were stolen! Get them back!" with The depth of something like Cave Story+).
- Please don't put things like this in your IndieDB page. They don't give a very good idea of the game.
- You seem to be heavily inspired by Mari0. 8-bit game with love2d, DLC and Mappack system, Hats(Useless,and at this point it's not funny anymore), forum, IRC, blog, screenshot marathon. All of that stuff is cool, but I'm sure T:P could be a better game if you were inspired by other game.
- Btw, Turtles:Puzzles is a game where the hero is... You. Uh...
Edit: Friendlier.
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That sounded a bit insulting.Automatik wrote:Nope, I was here since, mari0's release.(Though I only made that account 20 Jul 2012, 17:54)though I don't know if you're a beginner.
Most forum members are good and/or improving, so I won't repeat what Idiot said. Howered:
Turtle:
Ok, your posts are good. But:TL;DR: Be original.
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I said criticise in a calm way.
Caaalm
CAAAAAALLLM
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Oh I'm sorry if I sounded mean.
Turtle is a good member.
Turtle is a good member.
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Just don't phrase it like you did.Automatik wrote:Oh I'm sorry if I sounded mean.
Turtle is a good member.
Instead of, "You're a bad designer," put "You need to work on your designs, and your designing process."
Or something like that.
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I read the 'calm' version. I do still feel insulted, only by the fact you still say I'm doing this based on/because of Mari0. Here is what I have to say:
I hope this does not come off as rude, and if it does, I'm sorry. It's just this is the truth, and I hate being told that I'm doing something similar to something else because of what you said.
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You're impatient.Hans1998 wrote:Hey! I'm still waiting for be critized.
Done.
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Honestly, I agree with pretty much everything Automatik said about you. You don't seem to know what you're doing a lot of the time (using BBCode to make your entire spoiler also a list and then not actually listing anything?). Also, you can't make a long insulted post in response to someone finding flaws in you and only address some of the issues. You shrugged off the claim that is was based on Mari0 by providing flawed reasons for some of the similarities. It's not a 100% original game idea, as that would mean everything about it was original, when many puzzle platformers have been made before, and many games have starred turtles before. Saying the hats idea came from someone else on the forum doesn't mean it wasn't originally from Mari0. There were many things you totally overlooked, like why you have a devblog containing a screenshot marathon, your own forum and IRC, whether or not the game was actually fun or just a cluster of features...Turtle95 wrote:I read the 'calm' version. I do still feel insulted, only by the fact you still say I'm doing this based on/because of Mari0. Here is what I have to say:
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I hope this does not come off as rude, and if it does, I'm sorry. It's just this is the truth, and I hate being told that I'm doing something similar to something else because of what you said.
You need to think out things more. That's my criticism of you for this topic. You're clearly a smart guy, but you rush into things too quickly without properly planning it, meaning you're not properly equipped for what you need to do.
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Oh good!Trist3D wrote:You're impatient.Hans1998 wrote:Hey! I'm still waiting for be critized.
Done.
Thanks!
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And finally, if you don't want your game to be compared to mari0, then put more things that aren't in mari0.Turtle95 wrote:I am NOT basing it on Mari0 or Mario or whatever you think at all! You are still being inspired by Mari0.
Do you remember that I used to make the game in Java? It is 100% and original game idea and truth be told, it was pretty shitty. The problem isn't the idea.(Ok, "A turtle who solves puzzles" would raise the question "which kinds of puzzle?". What make your puzzles as interesting as Portal's or AntiChamber without being as "boring work" as Sokoban?)
I had no choice but to move the game onto LOVE 2D (and I was feeling that it would be best since the only thing I knew other than Lua was Visual Basic, which would have been bad. Really, really bad) due to the fact it wouldn't turn into a .jar (and who wants to download 100MB + 'X' MB of a game?). Right,but I'm sure that part of your decision of switching to Love2d was because It's the most used engine here. I'm not criticizing that, I'm saying that you seemed inspired by mari0 and mostly mari0.
Then when working pretty early with QCode on the early versions of Turtle: Puzzles, I figured that maybe it would be cool to use the level editor in the better way than just being like, "hey screw off it's only for making levels for the game by the developers and nothing else." Not many games come with the option to do something like this, so I decided to do it. I didn't talk about or criticized a level editor here.
Furthermore, the hats idea came from, well, Hatninja. I'm not trying to put it off on him, but I think it's quite fun adding hats in the game. Hats themselves aren't fun, IMO.
Although not too many. That's why I added 'custom hat loading'. The graphics (and the ?)scenario has changed quite a bit since you last saw it though. So, can the whole scenario be exprimed in more than 2 lines? No? Then it won't be the game's strong point. I'd say it's more consistent now because not only the Turtle's sprites are not 8-bit, they are much more colorful and aesthetically pleasing to the eyes to go along with the rest of the graphics.But are they consistent? The graphics are still bad. You can't make a game look good with only one tile
Although one issue IS the font, I will admit. It's an 8-bit looking font, and I am open to suggestions on fonts. It's not the only issue. But if you want a better font, you can:1.draw it yourself, and use a imagefont 2.Take a font where uppercases and lowercase chars look different.
Also, the hats are not unlocked immediately. Never said that hats being available from the start was bad.
There's the Turtle Store in-game where you can buy the hats and other in-game content from getting Turtle Coins which are gained from unlocking various Achievements. Btw, what's the point of a store?
Even if you don't want it to be a copy of mari0, it still look inspired by mari0. But I understand that you don't want to make it like that.(You said on steam that you were going for a gui that don't look like SMB's gui.)
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sorry but this made me really angry. what's the point of restricting colors for the sake of restricting colors?Automatik wrote: restrain to a color palette
i don't find any of the graphics out of place really because colors are colors and in the real life we see most of them and yet i haven't found anyone complain about how other colors should contrast others or whatever.
rocks are grey because if there is a gray lump people say "oh hey that's a rock". you shouldn't make it yellow or something because that's the color of the wallpaper.
t:p inspired by mari0?Automatik wrote: Be original
1. i see lack of portals
2. really just how original is a portal game? (apart from portal and portal 2)
3. just because it uses the same engine doesn't mean it's inspired by it.
surely concepts are the same. but does that mean that every 2d platformer with a level editor is mari0 inspired?
i'll edit this with something more when i'm really bothered to.
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Rokit boy, you seem to have a serious misunderstanding about pretty much everything going on here.
Firstly, a colour palette for sprites is good, because it gives the game a consistant feel. Have you noticed that many of the best spriters on the forums (idiot, jorichi) often have a line of colours to the side of their sprites? That's the palette they're using, and they're using it because they know palettes make sprites look nice.
Also, your arguments for T:P not being inspired by Mari0 are all shit.
1) It was never about portals
2) This is entirely irrelevant and inaccurate too because there are no other good 2D Portal games
3) That implies something more like 'based upon it'.
You also totally ignored every single point that Automatik made about it being related to Mari0.
My criticism for you is stop being dumb.
Firstly, a colour palette for sprites is good, because it gives the game a consistant feel. Have you noticed that many of the best spriters on the forums (idiot, jorichi) often have a line of colours to the side of their sprites? That's the palette they're using, and they're using it because they know palettes make sprites look nice.
Also, your arguments for T:P not being inspired by Mari0 are all shit.
1) It was never about portals
2) This is entirely irrelevant and inaccurate too because there are no other good 2D Portal games
3) That implies something more like 'based upon it'.
You also totally ignored every single point that Automatik made about it being related to Mari0.
My criticism for you is stop being dumb.
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Camewel wrote:Rokit boy, you seem to have a serious misunderstanding about pretty much everything going on here.
Firstly, a colour palette for sprites is good, because it gives the game a consistant feel. Have you noticed that many of the best spriters on the forums (idiot, jorichi) often have a line of colours to the side of their sprites? That's the palette they're using, and they're using it because they know palettes make sprites look nice.
that's exactly where i got it from. so uh. yeah.Camewel wrote:I never really liked the idea of restricting colours for the sake of restricting colours.Automatik wrote:If we ever need a color palette:
i can't really be bothered to comment on this because my first point i feel is really good and i don't want to ruin it.Camewel wrote: Also, your arguments for T:P not being inspired by Mari0 are all shit.
1) It was never about portals
2) This is entirely irrelevant and inaccurate too because there are no other good 2D Portal games
3) That implies something more like 'based upon it'.
You also totally ignored every single point that Automatik made about it being related to Mari0.
noCamewel wrote: My criticism for you is stop being dumb.
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Alright, few things:
-T: P uses elements that Mari0 has, such as a level editor and hats. They also look similar to one another. Though it might not be inspired by Mari0, given those factors people will compare it to it no matter what.
-Color Palettes are good, as restricting the amount of colors you use can help everything blend together nicely and make it pretty. But if you choose not to use them they by all means use as many colors as you want. It's how you use colors that matter, not the amount.
(Unless you're going for an old school console look, which in that case you better be using correct palettes.)
-Stop being stupids, you're derailing a perfectly good thread. If you want to argue, PMs are a thing.
-T: P uses elements that Mari0 has, such as a level editor and hats. They also look similar to one another. Though it might not be inspired by Mari0, given those factors people will compare it to it no matter what.
-Color Palettes are good, as restricting the amount of colors you use can help everything blend together nicely and make it pretty. But if you choose not to use them they by all means use as many colors as you want. It's how you use colors that matter, not the amount.
(Unless you're going for an old school console look, which in that case you better be using correct palettes.)
-Stop being stupids, you're derailing a perfectly good thread. If you want to argue, PMs are a thing.
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idiot9.0 for best internet guy 2013 - forever
Edit: well since people were wanting me to delete this post within mere minutes (not kidding) I have no choice but to criticize idioit9.0
please excuse any stupidity
Edit: well since people were wanting me to delete this post within mere minutes (not kidding) I have no choice but to criticize idioit9.0
please excuse any stupidity
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You better be using that to point out that you have no critiques about him.renhoek wrote:idiot9.0 for best internet guy 2013 - forever
If not, get that outta my thread.
Side note: I'm gonna add a new rule/ guideline due to this:
rokit boy wrote:Camewel wrote:noCamewel wrote: My criticism for you is stop being dumb.
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Thanks! Your coding in gostab and pretty much everything you've coded I've always noticed is not only good but functional, and don't often have bugs, which I'm pretty sure takes skill.Qcode wrote: Kiashi
You're a great spriter, but I think everyone knows that by now. Seem willing to contribute to all the good projects, so that's nice. I don't see too many of your posts around, but when I do it's nice.
Response: Nothing
Again, thanks a lot! getting better is certainly something I intend to do, and agree I am brutally honest, but also I try to make sure I'm polite and kind to people who deserve it while doing so, which I hope I'm succeeding in doing.idiot9.0 wrote: Kiashi: Artist extraordinaire right here! You're talented and only gonna get better. Also you're not afraid to tell people to get out of a thread, so you're up there on the brutally honest list. Other than that you're a great member.
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I haven't been around much for a while, but if you remember me, I'd love some criticism.
...It'd be interesting to see if it matches up with the occasional criticism I've gotten for my conversational habits...
...It'd be interesting to see if it matches up with the occasional criticism I've gotten for my conversational habits...
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WillWare: You are a all around great user. You make good posts, make good mappacks and tilesets, and you are smart. :)
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Ok, please can someone criticize me?
And, i'm not good to criticize anything, for me all can be good or bad, and between those adjetives there aren't more adjetives.
And, i'm not good to criticize anything, for me all can be good or bad, and between those adjetives there aren't more adjetives.
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Uhh.. I haven't been here for awhile.. but if you want to.. go ahead and criticize me.
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boy i need to be more active, i missed an entirely good thread
anyways, i would love to hear criticism about me if its not too late
anyways, i would love to hear criticism about me if its not too late
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Updated my post in the first page all the way up to Hatninja. Enjoy.
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My name IS an eyesore, 'eh? I wonder if Sašo would change it for me.HAPPYFACES wrote:I would like to know how I come off as in my posts, if anyone has anything to say.
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It comes off as a sad Japanese rip-off of Stabyourself. Like the PolyStation to PlayStation. Sorry, just my opinion.
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I'm Mongolian, close enough? I bought a PolyStation and gave it to some poor kids.
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You see this palm? It's going to go straight to my face.
Of course you don't.
So let me give you the closest visual representation I can of it
*Palm to the face*
Look, I'm sorry I'm a little nitpicky, okay? Just... Why would you make that name in the first place?
Of course you don't.
So let me give you the closest visual representation I can of it
*Palm to the face*
Look, I'm sorry I'm a little nitpicky, okay? Just... Why would you make that name in the first place?
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Don't worry about saying sorry, I don't really think before acting.
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Oh my. You're going to need to work on that then.
Anyways, yes the name is an eyesore to me. Mainly because of the "First Impression" thing. It was like you were mocking SYS with the least bit of sarcasm possible.
Anyways, yes the name is an eyesore to me. Mainly because of the "First Impression" thing. It was like you were mocking SYS with the least bit of sarcasm possible.
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Thanks for the criticism. I really enjoyed reading it.
it's the only thing that occurred to me to write
it's the only thing that occurred to me to write
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Sorry for not replying...
I was surprised that nobody thinks anything bad about me. For some reason I thought you guys considered me somekind of spammer (or random posts guy) :(
This is a huge relief. :D
Thanks a lot!
I was surprised that nobody thinks anything bad about me. For some reason I thought you guys considered me somekind of spammer (or random posts guy) :(
This is a huge relief. :D
Thanks a lot!
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Wait, what first impression thing? Is it a post that I screwed up or is it just your first impression of me.HAPPYFACES wrote:Oh my. You're going to need to work on that then.
Anyways, yes the name is an eyesore to me. Mainly because of the "First Impression" thing. It was like you were mocking SYS with the least bit of sarcasm possible.
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Your name gives you a bad first impression. People see a name like that and instantly distrust it. You're a better guy than that impression, so you might want to ask the Sašonator to change your name.
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What does "shank" mean?, i searched it and all i found was this:Camewel wrote:Your name gives you a bad first impression. People see a name like that and instantly distrust it. You're a better guy than that impression, so you might want to ask the Sašonator to change your name.
Google Translator only say that is something like stem, and since it's not a verb, i can't see the bad image that it gives him.
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Sooo....Qcode wrote:It's a homemade knife.
since it's not a verb he looks like a stupid,
ooor...
looks like he is desesperate to stab himself and looks like a psicho.
If those aren't the reasons, i don't know.
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It's a bad impression because it's a bad parody of stabyourself.net
It means people see his name and instantly think "oh bad jokes guy here".
It means people see his name and instantly think "oh bad jokes guy here".
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I would like to criticize for killing the shame chamber. I used to get a good laugh out of it. No more >_<