Stabyourself.net post: Slopes

[Pyrosaur]

http://blog.stabyourself.net/post/20546 ... eriments-1

Neat.

[rokit]

yay

[Camewel]

Reflections are all wrong. Clearly photoshopped.

[Pyrosaur]

You got me.

[Superjustinbros]

Well it'd still be an interesting feature, especially with certain puzzle-based levels to launch the player diagonally.

[kyudoxp]

maurice should make they rotate when they are moving like 45°

[Superjustinbros]

maurice should make they rotate when they are moving like 45°

I actually don't think that'll work; SMB3 and SMW had enemies that could travel on slopes and their sprites didn't rotate by any degree.

[Kyle Prior]

Well it'd still be an interesting feature, especially with certain puzzle-based levels to launch the player diagonally.

I just might make some public maps with that.

[Da2Shae]

I wonder how well are they working since he said its being "tested" and all.
Perhaps the portals aren't working yet.

[kyudoxp]

maurice should make they rotate when they are moving like 45°

I actually don't think that'll work; SMB3 and SMW had enemies that could travel on slopes and their sprites didn't rotate by any degree.

yes, but in SMB3 they make them to merge a little in the slope

[renhoek]

maurice should make they rotate when they are moving like 45°

I actually don't think that'll work; SMB3 and SMW had enemies that could travel on slopes and their sprites didn't rotate by any degree.

yes, but in SMB3 they make them to merge a little in the slope

what does merging into the slope have anything to do with rotating?
you still haven't justifyied why this is a good idea.

[12seth12]

In case you didn't notice, kyudoxp actualy said that they rotated, then he said that they merged. so...

[renhoek]

I just noticed it was hime I was responding to
whoops gotta edit it

[Ness and Sonic]

maurice should make they rotate when they are moving like 45°

I actually don't think that'll work; SMB3 and SMW had enemies that could travel on slopes and their sprites didn't rotate by any degree.

Although rotating sprites could be useful for in other ways. Best I can think of off hand would be Sonic, his spin dash, and those loops you see him run
through.

[PloXyZeRO]

Well if this was Sonic game..

[Mari0Lu1g1]

Well if this was Sonic game..

S0nic? Uh oh...

[renhoek]

Well if this was Sonic game..

and this has something to do with...?

[PloXyZeRO]

It was in reply to Ness and Sonic's post.

[renhoek]

ahh

[Ness and Sonic]

Well if this was Sonic game..

S0nic? Uh oh...

Well, I think S0nic would make better use of the portal gun than Mario. I suppose I could list some reasons why to back this up.

• Spin dash into one portal at high velocity, go flying out of another as a ball that destroys robots and monitors on impact.
• Cross large gaps and get to places only Tails or Knuckles could get to before with their flying/gliding and climbing abilities.
• Propulsion gel and super sneakers power up combine for incredible velocity.
• Super bounce with Sonic 3's bubble (water) shield and repulsion gel.
• Do-over mode in special stages using portal gun to create a checkpoint you can go back to with your rings.
and maybe even this:
• Use portals to redirect enemy projectiles right back at them.

That being said, I'm not saying Mario shouldn't be field testing the portal gun; it's quite the opposite. Mari0 is a good place to start when it comes to seeing how portals can impact classic games. Also, I actually like both Mario and Sonic, so please don't think I'm here to make trouble.

[skyy]

Well it'd still be an interesting feature, especially with certain puzzle-based levels to launch the player diagonally.

Maurice said many times throughout the forums that portals will not be able to ever be placed on slants with the current physics engine, and that he wasn't going to rewrite it.
Not to crush your dreams or anything.

[12seth12]

I don't think s0nic is a good idea since,
1. the game is way to fast to even think about portals
2.you would have to slow down, and lose all the speed needed for those loops.
3. sonic is fun because you play so fast that you don't know whats coming up.
4. the jumps require you to have alot of speed so most of them have wide gaps, thus portaling would be impossible since you need to see the other side.
5. it just doesn't work with sonic, sorry.

[Camewel]

Well it'd still be an interesting feature, especially with certain puzzle-based levels to launch the player diagonally.

Maurice said many times throughout the forums that portals will not be able to ever be placed on slants with the current physics engine, and that he wasn't going to rewrite it.
Not to crush your dreams or anything.

What the hell are you on about. You are so utterly wrong.

[trosh]

well it does need huge changes of the physics engine, that's obvious. doesn't mean he's not gonna do it though.

[HansAgain]

it's great

[12seth12]

Maurice said many times throughout the forums that portals will not be able to ever be placed on slants with the current physics engine, and that he wasn't going to rewrite it.
Not to crush your dreams or anything.

What the hell are you on about. You are so utterly wrong.

I'm pretty sure i recall Maurice saying the same thing that skyy said.

[Pyrosaur]

Yes, you will be able to place portals on slopes:

[skyy]

Well it'd still be an interesting feature, especially with certain puzzle-based levels to launch the player diagonally.

Maurice said many times throughout the forums that portals will not be able to ever be placed on slants with the current physics engine, and that he wasn't going to rewrite it.
Not to crush your dreams or anything.

What the hell are you on about. You are so utterly wrong.

mind showing me proof why I'm wrong?
it's not like sloped portals are a new idea, and maurice has confronted them at least twice from what I've seen from him.

[Pyrosaur]

Maurice said many times throughout the forums that portals will not be able to ever be placed on slants with the current physics engine, and that he wasn't going to rewrite it.
Not to crush your dreams or anything.

What the hell are you on about. You are so utterly wrong.

mind showing me proof why I'm wrong?
it's not like sloped portals are a new idea, and maurice has confronted them at least twice from what I've seen from him.

Yo. Look up.

[trosh]

made this real quick. Dunno if it could be useful or what, don't know if i should put it here. Anyway this is a proposal for a design of sloped tile. It would also need a particular set of pixels on the right/bottom to indicate slope/slope direction but that's not for me to say.

[Camewel]

How would the physics engine stop you from putting portals on slopes. That would be such an amazingly easy thing to do. He even said in one thread "It's not the portals which would be the problem".

[trosh]

haha you have no idea how the physics work do you. They're currently (as far as I know) following a super strict box system (testing for collisions and stuff depends on square tiles). Also portals would have to be more flexible too. Changing the physics engine usually means a lot of work.

[Camewel]

Yes, but how would going through diagonal portals at all contradict this? Simply use the components and it's easy.

[trosh]

because
A : maurice must implement slopes with the crosshair aiming thing
B : I'm pretty sure the system for direction is based on simple four directions
C : Collisions dude ! The number of bugs square tiles had seems to imply slopes will have a million new ones.

[Camewel]

A : maurice must implement slopes with the crosshair aiming thing

I'm sure that won't be hard.

B : I'm pretty sure the system for direction is based on simple four directions

Clearly you never did any advanced level maths or physics.

C : Collisions dude ! The number of bugs square tiles had seems to imply slopes will have a million new ones.

Oh well, glitches happen, we learn to deal with it.

[Pyrosaur]

Bottom line is: There will most likely be slopes, and you WILL be able to put portals on them. We'll find out how he did it when it happens.

[trosh]

Clearly you never did any advanced level maths or physics.

dude. I'm not saying it's impossible nor even hard in principle. but any change for something as basic as collision detection takes work to implement. that's all i'm saying.
I'm freaking doing a maths and physics diploma at the university T_T

[Camewel]

So you should know how to translate any velocity at any angle into velocities going in the main 4 directions.

[trosh]

*facepalm* dude that's not even what i'm talking about - that's not even a problem it already works - the way mario rotates around when going through a portal has to be slightly more flexible, is one of the things that have to be changed.
Please make a fun / constructive 1000th comment :)

[renhoek]

oooo
camewels reaching the spamer number...
Missed my chance to celebrate,
so any one else wander what Maurice can't do
he lies saying he'll never do it and in a few days/weeks it's in?