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OH IT'S A MYSTERY

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HAPPYFACES wrote:Hi. Posting for meaningless updates since I'm genuinely interesting in knowing who's still doing their thing.

Eden GT wrote:And someone should make a Mari0 Mappack archive. Imagine if one the mappack links are suddenly broken, and neither of us have it and lost contact with the author. Even the crappiest mari0 mappacks still deserve to be preserved. At this stage however, I wouldn't collect them, though.

Eden GT wrote:

My newest unfinished hack-
It looks like he is looking down on me.
And it is true everybody, that hardcore hacks are no longer accepted?
He also say my level design is HORRIBLE. Really? I spend so much effort in this fragile piece of art, and I get nothing back?!?!

Eden GT wrote:

My newest unfinished hack-
It looks like he is looking down on me.
And it is true everybody, that hardcore hacks are no longer accepted?
He also say my level design is HORRIBLE. Really? I spend so much effort in this fragile piece of art, and I get nothing back?!?!

MF064DD wrote:who doesn't even know where to begin with making a SMB from hack probably

Eden GT wrote:

MF064DD wrote:who doesn't even know where to begin with making a SMB from hack probably

You mean the other way round....

WillWare wrote:

Eden GT wrote:

My newest unfinished hack-
It looks like he is looking down on me.
And it is true everybody, that hardcore hacks are no longer accepted?
He also say my level design is HORRIBLE. Really? I spend so much effort in this fragile piece of art, and I get nothing back?!?!

Holy geez, w7n is a jerk.

I can't speak for your level design in this hack (it's probably fine given your other work), but I can say that this guy - I'll assume it's a guy - is being overly harsh for what he considers a "wasted effort." Everything is blown out of proportion; there's no real argument, just a bunch of general claims that could apply to anything. Of course, it's the kernels of truth that hurt the most. I can't see any reason for him to take the time to send you an email of this nature, other than to rile you up and evoke this exact response.

My advice is not to be so defensive. "Fragile piece of art" speaks more to you than it does to your work - art isn't fragile, people are. Sometimes you'll get emails like this, and you just have to let it go. Other times, you might get legitimate criticism; if you get defensive then, you'll never get better. Trust that you did the best you could, and if people like it, cool! If not, learn from it and try again.

There's no solace in this, but people pull this stuff all the time. You can't let it get to you. Ignore the trolls and move on.

w7n wrote:

WillWare wrote:

Eden GT wrote:
My newest unfinished hack-
It looks like he is looking down on me.
And it is true everybody, that hardcore hacks are no longer accepted?
He also say my level design is HORRIBLE. Really? I spend so much effort in this fragile piece of art, and I get nothing back?!?!

Holy geez, w7n is a jerk.

I can't speak for your level design in this hack (it's probably fine given your other work), but I can say that this guy - I'll assume it's a guy - is being overly harsh for what he considers a "wasted effort." Everything is blown out of proportion; there's no real argument, just a bunch of general claims that could apply to anything. Of course, it's the kernels of truth that hurt the most. I can't see any reason for him to take the time to send you an email of this nature, other than to rile you up and evoke this exact response.

My advice is not to be so defensive. "Fragile piece of art" speaks more to you than it does to your work - art isn't fragile, people are. Sometimes you'll get emails like this, and you just have to let it go. Other times, you might get legitimate criticism; if you get defensive then, you'll never get better. Trust that you did the best you could, and if people like it, cool! If not, learn from it and try again.

There's no solace in this, but people pull this stuff all the time. You can't let it get to you. Ignore the trolls and move on.

I'm a certain troll who has devoted a large chunk of spare time during the past 8 years hacking Super Mario Bros, has learnt 6502 ASM during the process and designs hacks like THIS and THIS.

Or without the sarcasm mode, not all negative comments are trolling comments, in fact positive comments have the same tendency to be useless as some of them are just that 'yes good' type of comments but are not constructive. And I'm not really 'trashing' the design, just pointing out that the problems with both the audience the hack tries to target and the problems with the design. Do you actually know what trolling comments are like?

Trolling comments: 'This sucks balls go back and eat your own arse n00b'
Criticism: 'The design is unappealing, here's an example of an appealing hack that you may wish to check, and the reason for this to be more appealing is as follows...'

About the wasted effort thing, this is not that sort of 'wasted effort on junk' but rather 'wasted (ASM) effort on a hack that is too hard to be enjoyable for a major audience'.

Eden GT wrote: And which recording programs do you guys use for live streams? (Without the microphone because I'm not using that)

WillWare wrote:

w7n wrote:

WillWare wrote: Holy geez, w7n is a jerk.

I can't speak for your level design in this hack (it's probably fine given your other work), but I can say that this guy - I'll assume it's a guy - is being overly harsh for what he considers a "wasted effort." Everything is blown out of proportion; there's no real argument, just a bunch of general claims that could apply to anything. Of course, it's the kernels of truth that hurt the most. I can't see any reason for him to take the time to send you an email of this nature, other than to rile you up and evoke this exact response.

My advice is not to be so defensive. "Fragile piece of art" speaks more to you than it does to your work - art isn't fragile, people are. Sometimes you'll get emails like this, and you just have to let it go. Other times, you might get legitimate criticism; if you get defensive then, you'll never get better. Trust that you did the best you could, and if people like it, cool! If not, learn from it and try again.

There's no solace in this, but people pull this stuff all the time. You can't let it get to you. Ignore the trolls and move on.

I'm a certain troll who has devoted a large chunk of spare time during the past 8 years hacking Super Mario Bros, has learnt 6502 ASM during the process and designs hacks like THIS and THIS.

Or without the sarcasm mode, not all negative comments are trolling comments, in fact positive comments have the same tendency to be useless as some of them are just that 'yes good' type of comments but are not constructive. And I'm not really 'trashing' the design, just pointing out that the problems with both the audience the hack tries to target and the problems with the design. Do you actually know what trolling comments are like?

Trolling comments: 'This sucks balls go back and eat your own arse n00b'
Criticism: 'The design is unappealing, here's an example of an appealing hack that you may wish to check, and the reason for this to be more appealing is as follows...'

About the wasted effort thing, this is not that sort of 'wasted effort on junk' but rather 'wasted (ASM) effort on a hack that is too hard to be enjoyable for a major audience'.

There's a couple of key problems with the "criticism" that I didn't address clearly the first time. I'll point them out here, and these will be the last major points I make on the subject. (I'm still happy to discuss specifics if it helps with understanding.)

First, the email gives no real specifics about what's wrong with the hack. This is a big part of constructive criticism, because it's the part that actually shows how to improve it. Saying it has no audience does not suffice, all that does is say that "no one will play it" (by poorly attempting to categorize it). Neither does throwing a bunch of better hacks out there; all you did is point out good designs, not how to apply them. It's like throwing books at someone and telling them to study harder - is that really criticism? Everything else here is just a generalized claim that you could say about any hack - there's no application or examples. All you've said is "it's poorly designed" without saying why.

Second, to bring up the "wasted effort" point again, saying things like that actively discourages modders from the community. I don't care what exactly you meant by it - that kind of loaded language doesn't belong. And given the snark throughout the email, the entire thing reads like that:
"casual gamers -- seriously?"
"Do yourself and everyone else a favor..."
It sounds like you're purposefully trying to push his buttons. How is that supposed to help? (On that note - while I used similar loaded language in my other post, it's not directed as criticism at you. This is.)

Now, does all of this categorize it as a "troll" response? No, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still more hurtful than helpful. You seem to have a lot of experience with this stuff, and I mean that legitimately - assembly is no joke, and neither is an eight-year hobby. But I think you've yet to learn how to criticize.

Eden GT wrote:Suddenly I want to post something, but I don't know what to say wwwww EDIT: I know what to say now
w7n, if only smb utility allows roms which are more than 41 kb...
And how do I say your name wwwww

Speaking of one hack and the bullying situation I mentioned a few weeks ago, I ask what my classmates think I act like. They say Kim Jong Un amd Donald Trump (I was the class rep in term 1, always making sure everybody got homework from every subject, but then was crumpled down by someone else)
Some video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74_hjr_jC3U (The hack is not mine)

The Snivy wrote:I have some more progress. Next i might make Bowser and make a new thread for my project.

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The Snivy wrote:Does anyone have a sprite of SMAS SMB1 Mario holding the portal gun? It's hard to make mario to hold it correctly.

Eden GT wrote: "Holy shit!" Eden said. "Idiot's a furry!"

MF064DD wrote:for those who havent watched it yet.